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 Post subject: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Hey everyone.

I just posted a new blog entry ( http://www.dancarlin.com/blog.php ) explaining why you are going to hear me talk about this company I love for a while (and why you will see their banner ads on this website in a few places). If you eventually get tired of me singing their praises, that just puts you in the same position everyone else who lives around me is in :lol:

They make awesome stuff.

http://www.albion-swords.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:40 pm 
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Should we be querying your integrity now Dan? Are your future recommendations for downsizing military spending going to start leaning towards a 'return to the days of chivalry and honor, where men were men, and fought face to face'? Has the MIC finally gotten to you Dan...?

... watchin you.. :hmph:

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Benkei wrote:
Are your future recommendations for downsizing military spending going to start leaning towards a 'return to the days of chivalry and honor, where men were men, and fought face to face'?


Yes. :InsectQueen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgIhsWG ... re=related


(Hey, even though these Albion's aren't cheap...they still are a bargain compared to the Abrams and the new fighter planes on the horizon! I am doing us all a favor... :goteam: )


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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:03 pm 
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I seem to remember dan mentioning s-words before....

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:03 pm 
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So what did you buy Dan ?

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:31 pm 
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Carlus Magnus wrote:
So what did you buy Dan ?


I have owned this model for several years now
http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/alb ... ht-xii.htm

It is really the prototypical 13th/14th century knight's sword (it is incredibly balanced and quick for a sword of it's dimensions. Scary sharp as well).

Here's an independent review of this Albion model: http://www.myarmoury.com/review_alb_knight.html

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:39 pm 
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I saw a history channel show once and they took a similiar long sword and showed what it did to a side of pork, devastating.

Years ago I was in an Army ceremonial, mounted color guard. It was the best duty in the world. Riding horses for a living. We were very much into the history of the US Cavalry and set up the historic US Sabre qualification course. It was very challenging, trying to get accurate sword strikes in on a immoble target while riding past.

I gained a great respect for the mounted warriors who came before me.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:42 pm 
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Carlus Magnus wrote:
I saw a history channel show once and they took a similiar long sword and showed what it did to a side of pork, devastating.

Years ago I was in an Army ceremonial, mounted color guard. It was the best duty in the world. Riding horses for a living. We were very much into the history of the US Cavalry and set up the historic US Sabre qualification course. It was very challenging, trying to get accurate sword strikes in on a immoble target while riding past.

I gained a great respect for the mounted warriors who came before me.


Well, I have also handled swords from the Napoleonic era, and there is no comparison. For whatever reason (mass production probably) the more modern swords that were used by military forces after about 1700 were crap (with some exceptions always of course) compared to the stuff that was made in an era when there were the primary weapons of war.


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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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Benkei wrote:
The day I know I've 'made it', is the day I buy a full authentic Daisho



One of the most beautiful of man's creations.


No question, the Japanese (and the Syrians) make gorgeous swords. They always have. The difference between them and the Western swords is that the Japanese never stopped making them. The Western tradition had become almost extinct until relatively recent times. To have medieval type swords available again is a bit like something from Jurassic Park! Peter Johnsson is doing a lot to single-handedly recreate these things from surviving museum pieces. (look at what he did to recreate THIS one:
http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/joh ... svante.htm )

Here's the finished product:
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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:08 pm 
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Dan wrote:

Well, I have also handled swords from the Napoleonic era, and there is no comparison. For whatever reason (mass production probably) the more modern swords that were used by military forces after about 1700 were crap (with some exceptions always of course) compared to the stuff that was made in an era when there were the primary weapons of war.


The oldest swords I've handled were a set of 1859 artillery officer swords we had in our arsenal. So now I am intrigued.

We used pumpkins for target practice and when you got a good blow in with even a blunt blade the sabre would slice right through it. I can't imagine how much more effective one of the legendary damascas steel or toledo blades would have done.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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Carlus Magnus wrote:
Dan wrote:

Well, I have also handled swords from the Napoleonic era, and there is no comparison. For whatever reason (mass production probably) the more modern swords that were used by military forces after about 1700 were crap (with some exceptions always of course) compared to the stuff that was made in an era when there were the primary weapons of war.


The oldest swords I've handled were a set of 1859 artillery officer swords we had in our arsenal. So now I am intrigued.

We used pumpkins for target practice and when you got a good blow in with even a blunt blade the sabre would slice right through it. I can't imagine how much more effective one of the legendary damascas steel or toledo blades would have done.


The blades from the era you reference tend to be heavy and have a "dead" feel to them. They really were almost ceremonial by that time (not exclusively, but almost) and were, by and large, mass produced by large firms that cranked them out. During the Napoleonic wars, cavalry sometimes were so frustrated with the quality of their swords that they used them as clubs instead. This is not a good period for sword making (the Japanese are, of course, excepted from this. Their quality was always very high).

The European swords from Medieval (and especially Renaissance) times were fabulous marvels of engineering. They are nothing like the sword you handled (even the heavy cutting weapons from the Dark Ages are much more "alive" in your hand than the dead swords from the 1700s to modern times).


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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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I might someday in the far future, when I'm no longer a student, and done paying at least half of my student loans, get one of them swords. However, in the more immidiate future there's something I would look more forward to. Something historic, something as far as I know unprecedented:

Listening to an audio commercial ad for swords, done by you. :goteam: Please Dan, when you talk of the albion swords site, use the same tone of voice you use for audible.com. xD It would, for unexplained reasons, just be awesome. :worship:

"Got a dragon problem? Tax collector demanding a tip? Need an accessory to your suit? Albion has a sword for every occasion! Buy now and save our operating damsels from distress."

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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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Dan wrote:
They are nothing like the sword you handled (even the heavy cutting weapons from the Dark Ages are much more "alive" in your hand than the dead swords from the 1700s to modern times).


I am going to have to find a place that stocks these things.


Dan you are going to need this sign on your front door


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 Post subject: Re: Dan's Albion Sword Obsession
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BjornP wrote:
I might someday in the far future, when I'm no longer a student, and done paying at least half of my student loans, get one of them swords. However, in the more immidiate future there's something I would look more forward to. Something historic, something as far as I know unprecedented:

Listening to an audio commercial ad for swords, done by you. :goteam: Please Dan, when you talk of the albion swords site, use the same tone of voice you use for audible.com. xD It would, for unexplained reasons, just be awesome. :worship:

"Got a dragon problem? Tax collector demanding a tip? Need an accessory to your suit? Albion has a sword for every occasion! Buy now and save our operating damsels from distress."


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You will get it in the next HH show! :popcorn:


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